just how demented are you?


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pain torture anguish despair it's all here..but you might ask where is here?! i tell you i haven't got the foggiest idea where here is that's the pain..you have no idea why you are here or why you are spending your time trying to read this with the background messing with your eyes...and you know what? i don't know why you are here either my little trained monkey...



you've come this far would you like to journey with me
farther? or do you want to step back?




the art above is by john bergin who as i give links to has a gallery and order forms for his work available at the g r i n d e r web page

..::little note the picture i had above was tiled for the background this made it very hard to read making this part more painful..however it didn't always load so i took it off the background::..